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NYU's Carolyn Kissane on Preparing for the Future of Cyber Risk in Global Affairs

Show Notes

In this week's episode of the Future of Cyber Risk podcast, David speaks to Carolyn Kissane, Associate Dean of the MS in Global Affairs and MS in Global Security, Conflict, and Cyber Crime at the NYU Center for Global Affairs. They discuss how the Center for Global Affairs prepares students for how cyber security will play a bigger role in geopolitics, energy resource management, and global conflict. They also talk about the rise of cyber attacks being used by governments against other nations, how to anticipate a future where AI and robotics contribute to warfare, and what practitioners can do today to increase their cyber risk awareness.

Topics discussed:

  • What a day-in-the-life of an associate dean is like in a Center that helps students understand geopolitics and energy security, and prepares them for the future of global affairs.

  • Why governments around the world today are quick to respond with cyber attacks that can significantly impact energy resources, and how it's become part of global warfare.

  • What practitioners get wrong about the interaction of cyber security and global affairs, and why they need to be prepared for a variety of attacks, big and small.

  • An overview of the MS in Global Affairs and MS in Global Security, Conflict, and Cyber Crime programs, including what courses students can take and the faculty’s expertise.

  • How emerging technologies like AI and robotics will impact global warfare in the near future.

  • Advice for practitioners on how to become more prepared for the future of cyber risk.

Quotes from Episode


"There's a lot that's going on that when we look at the world, there's a lot of tension in different parts of the world. And how that tension then translates, potentially translates into increased cyber risks and the ways in which those risks can be inflicted, and then can do harm. So I think that idea of being preparedness for a multitude of possible ways that I think cyber risk is changing." (27:17-27:57)


"The way we think about warfare today and we think about the arsenals that are available — it's beyond tanks and guns and missiles. It's the capacities to launch cyberattacks that can have wider damage because it can inflict wider damage across a population." (22:20, from video 1)

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